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BOB Revolution Flex 3.0 Single Jogging Stroller - Graphite Black

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Product Reviews
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78 Reviews
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Mary
Georgia
Verified Buyer
Tires go flat several times a month
April 28, 2023
Having 2 bob strollers I would have thought that one of them would have held up. Both have been to the bike shop every other week with flat ties. I have never had this issue with any stroller in 10 years. Calling Bob, they didn’t care about this issue and didn’t offer any suggestions. Im switching back to Nuna.
Cons
  • Tires
Vivian
Missouri
Poor clearance on cargo
October 20, 2022
I really can't believe how the design department missed this. It's so so difficult to put the diaper bag in the cargo area, due to the poor clearance. The space is so limited that once I manage to put the diaper bag, I don't want to take it out (because I know of the hassle of put it back in) that I just manage through the sides to access the stuff in diaper bag. I feel so jealous of other people strollers with a very wide opening in the cargo area to put their baby stuff in their strollers.
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Ryanne
yorktown, Virginia
Verified Buyer
long lasting
July 4, 2022
we have had this stroller for two years now and it still looks brand new.
KyleC
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Great product, well thought out product
June 30, 2022
We bought this to use for our long walks instead of our Cybex Priam as this seems more durable for the amount of mileage we walk every day. Ever since we received it, we've loved it! There's a lot more room for our daughter, the shock absorbers are awesome, and overall this product is well thought through. Easy to fold up and easy to adjust the seat!
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Shelby
Bowling Green, Florida
Verified Buyer
The best stroller!!!
May 17, 2022
BOB strollers are 100% the best jogging stroller and theme park stroller, as well as an everyday stroller ,in my opinion! The stroller is so easy to control and is perfect for any age! I highly recommend spending the extra money for the best quality!
Bethany
Kittery, ME
Verified Buyer
Absolutely love it!!
March 21, 2022
After getting rid of my old jogging stroller, I invested in a bob. This was the best decision I could’ve made. The quality is great and my daughter loves hanging out in this stroller! Definitely purchase if you want a durable jogging stroller!
Jomar
North Shore, Massachusetts
Worth the Investment
February 22, 2022
We bought this in August after welcoming our son and struggling to navigate the potholes and parks near us with a more cost effective stroller. It handles well, easy to push up hill and navigate the ever present potholes in the north east , folds down small enough to fit in the back of my mid-size SUV and most importantly, my child is comfortable in it when I'm walking with him or my husband is running with him.
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Anonymous
Richmond
Verified Buyer
Love this stroller
October 31, 2021
Love how it rolls. Definitely feels well made.
Cons
  • Doesn’t stand up when folded but I knew that before buying it.
Courtney
Pascagoula, MS
Verified Buyer
Love it!
October 8, 2021
We love this stroller. It is perfect for my 3 year old. It ride and pushes so smoothly.
Jtmarie
Spokane, WA
Verified Buyer
Great 4 wheelin stroller!
May 22, 2021
Bought this stroller when it was on sale. Took it for a test run and it did not disappoint! We have a natural trail next to where we live and this stroller was amazing! Baby girl (6 months) loves her new ride. Would definitely recommend.
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Pros
  • Great tires. Smooth ride. Great for rough trails.
Best Uses
  • Hiking trails.
Bethg1982
Lake grove, ny
Verified Buyer
Phenomenal
May 8, 2021
I received this stroller system from Stellar Panel in exchange for my honest review. I am beyond happy with this stroller. It was very easy to assemble. The tiered are phenomenal on all terrains. It has easy one button carrier removal from the car base and the stroller. The carrier and be placed facing you or reversed in the stroller which I love. It is a bit heavy but super sturdy. The stroller has a ton of storage pockets. There are two small pockets on the inside of the seat. There is a small zippered pocket right behind the canopy that fits a cell phone and keys. On the back of the seat are two water bottle pockets and a zippered pocket. The zippered pocket can fit a few diapers, etc. The water bottle pockets are quite tight and it can be difficult to slip a water bottle in and out. Below the stroller is a huge basket that easily accommodates a diaper bag and more. This stroller has everything you need and more. It is much better than any other travel system I have used in the past and I absolutely love it.
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Jillian B.
PENNSYLVANIA
Verified Buyer
Awesome Jogger
April 19, 2021
LOVE this Bob stroller. Highly recommend. It's smooth and easy to fold and unfold. It isn't too heavy either!
Korina
Pearland, Texas
Verified Buyer
Love it!
March 22, 2021
I am not a runner, I am more of a speed-walker. I still love the all terrain wheels! they work perfectly when I want go off a paved path!
Pros
  • All Terrain Wheels, Large sun canopy provides max UV protection
Cons
  • Heavy, bulky, not quick to fold
caity
Virginia Beach, Virginia
Best Push Ever
March 21, 2021
I bought this stroller for Auntie's house since my sister owns a stroller on which I would like to go office space... The BOB exceeds every expectation. The push is a dream! Only con is the bulky, awkward fold. But the push, size, canopy drape, tray makes up for all of that!
Semaj
Victoria
Verified Buyer
The Revolution we bought
March 13, 2021
We had been searching everywhere for a stroller that was able to be on a plane and used as a jogger. My partner and I are different heights as well. I am 6'4. We bought 2. A used city style small one for the fights and the revolution for running and everyday use. We did use the little striker at first but in time we realized that the Bob was a combination child and big carrier in the airport... Half the time the child is in sleeping and half they are out (feeding, playing) and you need something big enough for your bags. combine this with the fact that you can switch from a shorter person to a third person with a click and suddenly is the airport stroller of choice. I will not go into the strength of it outdoors as there are lots declaring it a comfortable ride at jogging speed. I just wanted to point out that it is also good for the every day use... even an airport.
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Kristen
Chicago
Verified Buyer
Amazing stroller - worth the $
March 10, 2021
We were lucky to rent this stroller on a vacation and immediately came home and bought one. Super easy to maneuver and lightweight. We use it as our standard day to day stroller now!
Andrea
North Carolina
Verified Buyer
Great Jogging Stroller
December 2, 2020
Light and easy to handle. My kid loved sitting in it, sleeping in it. I replaced it with double Summit X3 (2nd child) and regret not sticking with BOB. Daughter dislikes the other stroller. BOB is roomier and has better sitting upright position vs. Summit X3. Accessories are also much better; more ergonomic and easier to find and install. BOB is the best imho.
HP
Lynchburg, Virginia
Verified Buyer
Great stroller!
November 30, 2020
Fast shipping from Albee, and great stroller. We knew we wanted a BOB stroller and this is perfect. It's sturdy and has a lot of bells and whistles (unfortunately you have to buy the cupholder and the drink holder).
CAITLIN
Midland , MI
Verified Buyer
Great for walks in the woods
October 19, 2020
I walk with my baby every day, seven days a week (usually 3 miles). This jogger does very well on uneven sidewalk, Forrest trails, gravel, etc. the generous canopy covers her to keep the sun out of her eyes no matter how bright it is or where the sun is in the sky. The peekaboo shade is great, and the jogger itself is gorgeous. Suspension is great. I do wish the seat was a bit more padded though.. it’s not uncomfortable I just feel it should be a little better at this price point.
Pros
  • Great suspension
  • Great sun shade
  • Awesome ride
  • Adjustable handlebar
  • Looks wonderful
Cons
  • You have to buy snack tray separately
  • Seat could be upgraded comfort wise
Emily
Texas
Verified Buyer
Amazing!
September 17, 2020
I absolutely love this stroller. I have used everyday since getting it. So easy to steer one handed!
Jayme
Florence, Kentucky
Verified Buyer
Love this for running!
August 30, 2020
We bought this for an additional stroller (we have the Nuna) but can’t run with it or take it on all terrain. This one is perfect for just that!
Pros
  • Works well off road!
  • Easy to put together!
  • Easy to fold!
Cons
  • Large when folded!
Kelsey B.
Illinois
Verified Buyer
Is awesome
August 12, 2020
I love this stroller. It is also my everyday stroller. The only thing is that its pretty heavy and bulky when folded up but still manageable.
Bebu21
Chicago, Illinois
Verified Buyer
Great Jogging Stroller
July 13, 2020
We love this stroller. It’s so easy to push, and baby seems comfy on jogs or long walks. Also, the large shade keeps the sun off baby. It is a bit awkward and cumbersome folding it up to store, and for this price I wish it included a parent console, but overall it’s a great stroller. So glad I purchased it!
Himanshu
San Mateo, CA
Verified Buyer
Love the stroller
July 5, 2020
I love this stroller. It was easy to setup and took less than 30 min for the entire process. The kiddo loves the bright colors and is very comfortable during the runs or simple walks. The stroller is very smooth and tends to pull you when running, which has improved my pace. Need to be careful to always keep the strap on the hand to prevent rolling away. Overall I would definitely recommend it to my friends.
Pros
  • Ultra smooth, good space under the buggy, comfortable ride for the child, adjustable handle is a nice addition
Cons
  • Takes a lot of space when packed in the car.
Emily
NC
Verified Buyer
Great stroller
June 7, 2020
We upgraded from an older Bob stoller and love the new features - adjustable handlebards, better brake mechanism, etc. Been great for us so far!
Mona
Georgi
Verified Buyer
LOVE IT!!
May 31, 2020
I bought this to replace the graco jogger I bought before my granddaughter was born. We really enjoy our morning runs so I decided to up grade to a Bob. It is well worth the money! I shaved 1:30 off our first run with it. It’s so smooth the canopy is great! It is well worth the money and I feel a great investment in my training program!
Susan
Florida
Verified Buyer
Everything I wanted in a Jogging Stroller
May 29, 2020
This stroller has great handling , amazing shock absorption so baby doesn't get shaken like a salt shaker, and looks really nice! Our little guy looks like king of the neighborhood riding around in this.
Adriane
Boise, ID
Verified Buyer
HIGHLY RECOMMEND
May 28, 2020
I did A LOT of research before deciding to go with this stroller. I am extremely happy with my decision. It looks great, glides even better! High quality. If you are trying to decide on a stroller, look no further. You will not be disappointed!
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Pros
  • High quality
  • Easy to open and fold shut
  • Incredibly smooth, even on grass and gravel
  • Good storage
Cons
  • My only con is attachments and accessories are separate, for example cup holders...
Jenny
Massachusetts
Verified Buyer
Handles beautifully (but very heavy!)
May 27, 2020
I haven't yet had the chance to put the stroller into action (baby hasn't arrived yet), but it handles exceptionally well. It glides and turns smoothly and almost effortlessly. The adjustable handlebars are such a nice feature since my husband and I are almost a foot apart in height. Our friends who recommended it to us say that it's great for uneven terrain in parks or on smoother hiking trails, and that's exactly how we plan to use it. I deducted one star because it's pretty difficult to move once it's folded up. Despite how lightweight it feels when you're pushing it, it becomes quite heavy and unwieldy in the folded position. Getting it in and out of our car or up our front porch steps will likely be a bit of a challenge for me, particularly because I'm just 5'2".
Pros
  • It glides, turns, and maneuvers incredibly smoothly with minimal effort. The straps and other settings (handlebars, break pedal, locking front wheel, etc.) are very easy to adjust.
Cons
  • When folded up it becomes heavy and unwieldy and doesn't stand up on its own.
Courtney
Annapolis, Maryland
Verified Buyer
Pushes itself!
May 25, 2020
We love this stroller! Glides perfectly and is easy to move in tough terrain. Would absolutely recommend. When extended down all the way we are able to push our 60 lb elderly black lab. She loves it!
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Pros
  • Durable, glides well, large sun shield
Best Uses
  • Trails, grass, sand, anything that isn?t a perfectly smooth surface
Cons
  • Basket could be designed better to fit in larger bags
Nick
Alexandria
Verified Buyer
Should have bought sooner
May 13, 2020
My wife and I love it. We have a 3.5 year old girl who was leaving us in the dust on her bicycle on walks with our 6 month old. This stroller lets us keep up with her. We had a britax stroller which was ok but this stroller is better by leaps and bounds.
Pros
  • Maneuverability
  • Great shock absorption
Best Uses
  • Great all around
Clayton
Kansas City
Verified Buyer
Great for evening daily sidewalk strolls.
May 4, 2020
I did my research and this Bob stroller seemed to be the most versatile and best quality for the price point. I was not about to buy a $800 and up stroller.
Our sidewalks are very bumpy due to very mature trees in our neighborhood, so I needed something for our daily strolls, and our hand-me-down Graco stroller wasn’t cutting it. This thing glides, and is a very smooth ride for my three month old daughter. Be careful as this stroller can get away from you quick on any type of slope.
I haven’t found a flaw yet and have had it for a couple of weeks, with almost daily walks.
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Km
California
Verified Buyer
Best stroller
May 3, 2020
This is my second jogging stroller and it is FAR superior to the graco. I live in a rural area with bad or no sidewalks and this tackles everything. I walk/jog almost daily with it. The extended sunshade is also a huge plus. The peek and chat window is actually large enough to see and quiet when opening. Overall everything about this stroller is great and every part of the design is well thought out and quality. I would buy this again without hesitation.
Sam
Boston, MA
Verified Buyer
Great stroller
May 3, 2020
Great stroller, smooth ride, baby falls asleep almost instantly
Heather
Raleigh, NC
Verified Buyer
LOVE this Stroller!
April 30, 2020
My husband and I recently bought this stroller, so that we could get outside and jog while we cannot attend the gym during the Coronavirus pandemic. BEST decision we ever made! This stroller is amazing. It's super comfortable for our 15 month old to ride in. And, there's so much room for him to grow into it! It's very easy to maneuver on the roads. We cannot wait to take it hiking and to the beach, so that we can test out all of the shock capabilities! I love the large canopy with the peek window, so that we can keep our son shaded and peek in on him to make sure he's ok. It would have been nice had the stroller been sold with the tray, but that's such a small thing. Overall, I would highly recommend this stroller to anyone looking for a jogging stroller!
Madison
Charleston, South Carolina
Verified Buyer
Overall love this stroller!
April 19, 2020
We absolutely love our bob! The shipping was crazy fast!
Wills M.
Bourbonnais, IL
Verified Buyer
All features sold separately
April 17, 2020
I received this stroller as a baby shower gift. I wanted a jogging stroller and this seemed to be the one I wanted. After further research, I had to buy an adapter for my car seat to fit in the stoller and I have to also buy a snack tray for when the my child is old enough to sit upright in it. Also, I'll have to buy an additional adapter to carry water bottles and keys phones etc up by the handle bar. The last thing that really disappoints it this fact that it is so squeaky where the hydraulics are on the side. I used it a total of 3 times before I noticed the hydraulics squeaking. It's so loud it wakes my baby up with every bump I hit, even the smallest bump. It seems a little outrageous that every adapter that comes with this stroller has to be sold separately. Very frustrating considering the stroller itself was already really expensive and just to use it to its full capacity you have to buy more adapters. I will not recommend this stroller. Th squeaky hydraulics after 3 uses really put me over the edge on my disappointment
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Lori j.
Corona Del Mar, CA
Verified Buyer
Why didn’t I get this sooner?
April 5, 2020
I was contemplating over the price of a jogging stroller since we purchased a stroller to get around town with and then I also have a Doona car seat/stroller. Before I had my baby I used to jog quite a bit and it was really the only way I could get anxiety out. I suffered quite a bit from postpartum depression and with COVID-19 the thought of maybe not having the funds to spend $300 to $400 on a stroller was overwhelming.

I am beyond happy that I took the plunge because not only have I been able to get outside and run, my daughter has been getting lots of fresh air. This stroller has helped more than the amount of money I spent on therapy for postpartum depression.

If you were a jogger before having a baby, I highly recommend the bob revolution flex three. I decided to spend more for the extra pockets this version has as well as the magnetic flap. having magnets versus Velcro is so much easier to pop up and close while jogging and while I thought I wouldn’t really need the extra storage separation it is helped tremendously keep my things like sunglasses EarPods etc. in a compartment that I won’t lose it versus the bottom of the basket or a big zipper.

When you get down to it the cost per use over 5 to 7 years for that extra 100 or so dollars for the newer version, it’s worth it.

I love this Lunar color option because it’s safer in the morning or when the sun goes down at night and I need to be out at night vs with our UppaBaby stroller that can’t quite handle dips and curves or bumps. The bob stroller rides super smooth and i’m seriously amazed at how it handles angles of the sidewalks (my uppababy baby would just stop or tilt over) and rough city terrain.

Easy on me and my baby :)
RisL
Pittsburgh, PA
Verified Buyer
Love it!
March 26, 2020
The tires are well suited for off roading experiences. The only downside is it is a little heavier than I anticipated. Make sure you have a pump to fill the tires!
Ada
Houston TX
Verified Buyer
Makes strolling a breeze
March 5, 2020
This stroller is so easy to use. It just glides along the sidewalk no matter how bumpy and uneven the sidewalk. Our Baby sits up high so he can see everything and there are several options for shading the child from the sun.
Tim
Issaquah, Washington
Verified Buyer
Great
February 28, 2020
Rolls smoothly, easy to assemble and our kid loves it
Lulu
Hassloch, Germany
Verified Buyer
Love the BOB
November 12, 2019
We bought the Revolution Flex on our trip to Canada (we are from Germany) and we have not regretted it since. Our little one loves it and is really comfortable in it. As the one pushing it..I love that the handlebar is adjustable as my husband and I are not the same hight. The BOB can handle nearly any terrain (other than most strollers) and still be comfy for kids as it is the only stroller that is equipped with a shock! When we went to look at strollers at home the guy from the shop sad, that it is impossible to get one. We do not use it for jogging (as non of us do) but we go hiking in the woods which is no trouble for the BOB.
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LoganK
Ontario Canada
Verified Buyer
Strong stroller that even protected my son in accident
October 5, 2019
We have enjoyed our Bob jogger every day we have had it! Has always pushed like a dream (nothing like any other stroller I've pushed). Despite being a "heavier" stroller it pushed in snow and in grass with ease. Up and down hills, on long walks or jogs, carrying my groceries in the under baskets, this stroller has done it all for us. Large canopy is great at keeping out the sun. Reclines easily for when he's needed to rest and goes back up to the seated position easily as well.
I've always believed this stroller was tough and never was scared it would break on me or a wheel fall off unlike others I've tried.
This came to a true test when my son was hit while in the stroller by a driver in an SUV. The man wasn't paying attention and made a quick right turn into us. Thankfully the bob has such easy steering I reacted quickly (I was watching the man the whole time I crossed) and swerved over and the tire and side frame of the stroller took the hit. Rather then my sons head or body if he was in a smaller stroller or a cheaply made one. I'm truly thankfully for this stroller and how well built/solid it feels to push and it's ability to protect my son. my son walked away with no injuries and the bob had damage to the wheel but otherwise looked great! Which is shocking and shows how strong it really is. I love having a strong reliable stroller that I've been able to depend on!
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Sarah
Bronx, NY
Verified Buyer
Best stroller by far
July 24, 2019
Was hesitant to get a jogging stroller for everyday use but this proved to be worth it. It drives smoothly, great suspension, my son loves it and naps on it a lot
Rosalyne
Baton Rouge, LA
Verified Buyer
Love!
July 6, 2019
Bought this for outdoor use since our original stroller wasn’t as friendly for bumps & potholes. Very pleased with this purchase! So smooth & perfect for neighborhood walks, haven’t had a chance to go on more rugged terrain but I imagine it will hold up quite well!
Pros
  • easy to assemble
  • adjustable handle bar (husband & I need different heights)
  • tires handle bumps well
  • large storage basket
  • works wonderfully with the NUNA carseat adaptor for our 2 month old!
  • love the peep-window to check on child and SPF protection
MommyFIT A.
Utah
Verified Buyer
UNREAL
July 2, 2019
Training for the Grand to Grand Ultra has me spending TONS of time running and out on the trails.
I got this jogging stroller to allow me to get some training time in without a baby sitter required to watch my daughter. All I can say is I LOVE IT.
It is a freakin beast on the trails or road.
A BEASTTTTTT.
I love that it's compact and folds up easily and small.
Its super easy to run with which is something I was worried about and its a comfortable ride for my daughter. She loves it!
There are pockets in the side for her, a phone carrier for me along with other netting and pockets to hold everything you need for running without it falling out everywhere.
It's also perfect as a regular stroller for your everyday. You don't need a jogging and a regular stroller... you just need this ONE!

If you're on the fence.. just do it. You won't regret it!
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Special M.
Georgia
Verified Buyer
Freedom!
July 1, 2019
I researched strollers extensively before my daughter was born nine years ago. We decided on a used BOB Revolution and were so happy with our decision that when my son was born 18 months later we bought a brand new Revolution Duallie. With the infant car seat attachment, they were the only strollers we ever needed and we used them for EVERYTHING (daily activities, shopping, running, hiking trails in the woods, on the beach, etc.). I have recommended them to everyone who was interested in listening to me sing their praises!

When we were expecting our second son two and a half years ago I was excited to get a new BOB Revolution single. Unfortunately, my son suffered an injury to his brain at birth which caused a neurogenic airway among other diagnoses (which currently include cerebral palsy, low tone, developmental delay, etc.). At that point, we were unable to use a jogging stroller (including a BOB) due to the seat position. All the jogging strollers that I could find (really nearly ALL strollers) do not have a seat that sits fully upright at near 90 degrees. This was a problem for my son because when he was in a slightly/semi-reclined position his airway would partially collapse due to its lower tone making it difficult for him to breath. While we've seen great improvement with his airway tone, it is still difficult for him to sit semi-reclined (it really freaks him out and he panics). He is now two and a half years old and does not currently have complete head control and still requires assistance/support to sit. For these reasons, I was SO happy to discover recently that the seat position in the BOB Revolution series was redesigned to sit fully upright and couldn't wait to try him in it!

I am ecstatic to report that the Revolution Flex 3.0 is exactly what we have been hoping for! The upright seat position is exactly what my son needed to ride comfortably and safely. I was pleasantly surprised by the generous lumbar and side support of the five-point harness and the cushioning of the seat. It keeps him securely in place and gives him the support he needs to maintain a safe posture and head position while riding in the stroller. I love that the suspension system offers the smoothest ride possible as to not jar his head around unnecessarily. This stroller has allowed us to walk in our community every day, go on outdoor adventures as a family, begin running again, and has made our everyday lives easier. I hate to admit that as a special needs parent I was starting to feel a little "trapped" because getting around with my son was becoming increasingly difficult as he has gotten older. With the Revolution Flex 3.0, I finally feel like I have the same freedom I had with my older two children to get out and do things.

The Flex 3.0 has so many other great features as well! I love that I can fit all of my son's feeding supplies, cooler bag with food, diaper bag, and a few other small items in the basket underneath the seat. The small pockets are great for things like keys, phone, chapstick, etc. I can do diaper changes anywhere because the seat reclines to almost entirely flat. The stroller is easy to fold and relatively light-weight. My favorite part is how easy it is to push and turn. The only thing that would really make me happier is if it came with the snack tray. But really when it comes to jogging strollers it doesn't get any better than the BOB Revolution! We love the versatility and durability and I am so excited that it will last us until my son is 75 lbs.!
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Nel
Minnesota
Verified Buyer
Glides like a DREAM!
June 20, 2019
The BOB pushes so well! The adjustable handlebar is perfect for both myself who’s 5’3” and my husband who’s over 6ft tall. I love the length of the canopy and the magnetic peek-a-boo window.
Denise
San Diego
Verified Buyer
Amazing
June 11, 2019
I love this stroller for walking and running and for everything. Yes it is big my baby goes to sleep so easily and it doesn’t matter if we hits curbs or rocks my baby doesn’t feel it. The tires are amazing. It is so easy to
Fold.
Carlos
Mountain View ca
Verified Buyer
The valves on the tire are stuck inside
May 11, 2019
Bought this in Amazon and now will likely return it. Tried bicycle pump. Tried bob hand pump. No luck. Had to take it to a bike store and they were able to screw in a pump that worked. Defective tires. Watch out!
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Customer Q&A
2 Questions & 1 Answer
Soney Wilson
from Richland, Wa asked:
March 2, 2021
Do Bob Revolution Flex 3.0 single jogging stroller have adapter for UPPAbaby MESA? 
No it does not.
Submitted by: Albee Baby on March 3, 2021

KM
from CA asked:
March 6, 2020
What is the difference between the 2019 and 2020 versions?